Watch: Not Even CNN Will Let Top Democrat Get Away With THIS Outrageous Claim

Denying a very obvious reality tends to be one of those things that the news media pick up on during interviews with high-profile candidates.

Thus CNN’s Chris Cuomo was not able to keep quiet when Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine denied the existence of sanctuary cities, where illegal immigrants are allowed to remain on the street in violation of federal law.

The issue of sanctuary cities has come to the fore in America’s debate on immigration, particularly since the 2015 murder of Kate Steinle, who was gunned down on a San Francisco pier. The man charged with the crime is an illegal immigrant who was in San Francisco, a sanctuary city, even though he was supposedly deported five times.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump criticized the existence of these communities during his immigration speech on Wednesday.

On Thursday, during an appearance on CNN’s New Day, Kaine responded.

“When Donald Trump kind of goes after these phantom ‘sanctuary cities’ and talks about how bad they are, basically what he’s going after is police chiefs,” Kaine said. “And I trust police chiefs in terms of knowing what should be done to keep their communities safer and police departments and mayors a lot more than I trust Donald Trump.”

Cuomo contradicted his guest.

“But why do you say ‘phantom?’” he asked. “You know that there are places that refuse to cooperate with [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and they have their assembly of different reasons for why they do it, but sanctuary cities are real. They exist. They’re not phantom.”

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